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By Jason Sheftell
Who the heck are these guys
and why should we care what they say?
Three of New York’s biggest developers came together last month for a panel at the New York
Athletic Club for Esther Muller’s New York Real Estate Academy. Kent M. Swig, president of
Swig Equities and co-chairman of Terra Holdings, the parent company of Halstead Properties
and Brown Harris Stevens, is also the owner/president of Helmsley-Spear. From residential real
estate to commercial holdings, Swig overseas $3 billion in properties.
Jeffrey Levine, president of Levine Builders, has built more than 75 New York City properties,
including thousands of residential units and hotels, hospitals, dormitories and retail centers. In 2005,
he was appointed to the Mayor’s Commission on Construction Opportunity.
Richard Mack, managing partner at Apollo Real Estate Advisors, was instrumental in bringing
commercial and retail development to Central Europe. One of the most aggressive real estate lenders
in the world, Apollo Real Estate Advisors builds affordable and high-end real estate all over the
five boroughs and beyond. (He was also my college roommate.)
New York is in a credit crisis,
which is different
than the job crisis
The real estate market in New York City is
very strong.
The big difference between now and two
other downturn periods in 1989 and 1991 is
that then New York City lost about 350,000 jobs
over a two-year period.
In this round, we’re in a credit crisis, which
is different than the job crisis.
You have to look at the entire U.S. market to
understand what’s happening. The commercial
space vacancy rate for midtown is only 7.4%.
It’s just 5.9% in lower Manhattan.
That is really extraordinarily positive.
Kent Swig
New York building
will slow down
because the city is built
The velocity is going to slow down simply
because the city is very, very built.
The other thing on the commercial side is
that probably 60% or more of the leases in
New York City today are halfway under market,
or 50% below market-rate rents — not asking
rents, but again, market-rate rents.
KS
New York is
undervalued in rents
So you’ve got a city that is woefully
undervalued in terms of rent. As leases turn,
landlords are going to make more money.
Maybe they’re not going to get everything they
thought they could get in asking, but the rents
are going up throughout the city because it’s
relatively undervalued.
KS
There are not enough
homes to buy
On the residential side, there is basically
no inventory. I’ll give you two statistics. One,
since 2006, the condominium market rose 53%
in price.
If you take out 15 Central Park West and
The Plaza (two of New York’s most expensive
condo projects ever), it rose 18% in price.
Those are big moves. Another statistic is that
between 2002 and 2006, of every single home
sold in Manhattan, about 18% was in new
project development. Last year, that number
was 29%.
That is an enormous move, and it is not
because everybody wants to go live in the
new project developments that some of us are
developing. It’s because there is no inventory
in the resale market.
KS
A low dollar is bringing
more overseas buyers
The other difference from fi ve years ago is
that the devaluation of the dollar is bringing a
lot more foreign buyers.
The United States will always be a recipient of
capital from around the world as a safe haven.
In the United States today, there is no place
to invest like New York City. The international
cities of Miami and Las Vegas are not as
profi table an alternative for investment.
KS
Williamsburg
is hotter than ever
I am still a very strong believer in the
Williamsburg market. Today more than ever,
Williamsburg captures the imagination of
young people from all over this country.
If you go to the restaurants and boutiques,
you’ll see young people from Nashville, Tenn.,
and from Arkansas. People are moving to New
York and that’s their fi rst stop.
Jeffrey Levine
The velocity is gone
The velocity is gone in apartment sales
below 96th St., but price points have
maintained.
That makes a lot of sense because much
like our buddy Roger Clemens and Jose
Canseco, we were a market on steroids. Now,
we’re steroid-free.
The velocity has slowed down, but the
market stays strong. The fact that fi rst-time
buyers — people that are in their late 20s, mid-
30s — don’t have to sell something in order to
buy something makes them a very viable part
of the market. First-time buyers are going to
have great opportunities.
JL
Affordable housing and
high-end apartments
are in short supply
The two parts of the residential business
that we like best in New York are affordable
housing and the very high-end for-sale product
because both are in very scarce supply.
We prefer to stay out of the $1,200- to
$1,500-a-foot condo because those buyers are
most susceptible to economic downturns. If
you got paid $20 million last year and get laid
off, you can probably stay in your apartment.
But if you got paid $500,000 last year, which
is still a lot of money, you might decide not to
sell your apartment or not buy the next $1,200-
to $1,500-per-square-foot apartment.
Richard Mack
Is FiDi, the Financial District,
really that good?
I took a look at New York City and one of
the things that I wanted to do was invest in
an area that had a secondary marketplace.
So, in a commercial sense, if the economy
went bad, you can still rent space.
That’s one thing I learned to do. Invest in
a sizable marketplace but have a secondary
market with a lot of activity. Lower
Manhattan at that time was the thirdlargest
offi ce concentration in the U.S.
Midtown was first, Chicago was second .
The second thing is it was the fastest-growing residential neighborhood in the city.
That was a good thing. The third thing is it has
one of the highest occupancy rates in the hotel
business. Who would have thought that? The
fourth thing is it has the highest tourist traffic
population in all of New York City, except for
Times Square.
In regards to retail, it has the highest-grossing
retail-per-square-foot sales generator — the
World Trade Center. That’s the highest on Earth.
Then the other thing that I thought
is that the big commodity we have here
is transportation. Where is more of this
commodity than any other place on the island
of Manhattan? Again, lower Manhattan. There
is more railroad track per square foot than
anywhere else on Earth.
KS
Why would anyone invest
in the Bronx?
We have invested in the Bronx as part of
a national strategy to reinvest in core urban
areas. The Bronx has grown rapidly. It’s one of
those areas that was negatively impacted by
the growth of suburbia, which started in the
1950s with Levittown in Long Island. Suburbia
just sucked the population out of the New York
City area and other cities.
Over the next 20 to 30 years, New York
City will grow by 1 million people. Most of
that growth will come from the immigrant
population, and they are not going to move
to midtown Manhattan. They’re going to the
boroughs. Some Bronx areas are not ready
for prime time yet, but others are. We look
at the boroughs as the best areas to provide
workforce housing and home-ownership
opportunity for this growing population base.
In one of our recent Bronx projects, we
worked with the tenants association to
acquire buildings from a landlord who was
mismanaging the buildings. We then allowed
tenants to buy their apartments for $60,000 to
$80,000. The market value of those apartments
is between $250,000 and $300,000. The idea
here is to provide home ownership. We make
money when people decide not to buy their
apartments, and at the same time we provide
home-ownership opportunities at a price below
market value to people who have never had
them before. This is part of a broader strategy
we plan to implement in Queens and Brooklyn,
as well as other cities nationwide.
RM
We need more quality.
Buyers are getting picky
One of the things we’ve noticed in the
past few years is that apartment buyers are
looking at everything, and I mean everything.
In order to attract buyers, we’ve become
very aggressive in giving brokers good splits
on selling our units. It works. People need
brokers to hold their hands through these
large fi nancial transactions. We need brokers
to show our apartments.
Second, you have to build quality. Five years
back, anyone with money wanted to develop
real estate. So many people were building who
didn’t understand the process. Those builders
are fi nding themselves out of the market now
or sitting on unsold units. Now more than ever,
quality counts.
JL
The two who put it all together
Esther Muller and Faith Hope Consolo, friends for more than 25 years, conceived the
Developer’s Panel together as a learning tool for Muller’s New York Real Estate Academy,
a state-licensed continuing education program for New York City brokers and agents. The
idea was to think big.
“I wanted to introduce agents who sell these projects to the people who conceive them,” says Muller, who has been working to educate brokers for 13 years. “It’s important for people
to understand the thinking that goes into development and how big developers decide to
invest.”
Consolo, the chairperson of Prudential Douglas Elliman’s retail division, moderated the
event. Her disarming style got these developers to really open up.
“I set a tone at the beginning by saying this is an opportunity to share their vision and
insight about this bipolar, up and down market,” says Consolo, who admitted to turning on
the charm for the event. “It’s the beginning of a new year and I wanted to hear them speak
about good value and bad value. People love to share their vision.”
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